Sources say SuperCharged V10s have been delivered to Chrysler

"Milky" (jordanmielke)
08/20/2014 at 12:16 • Filed to: Viper, Hellcat, Supercharger, HP warz

Dodge is making power moves, literally.

Clearly all the positive press about the Hellcat twins has gone to Dodge's head. They're attention hungry and have apparently figured out a way to best …. well … damn near everybody. Some forced air in the 8.4L V10 would definitely get it's power level up from the paltry 640hp it currently makes, right passed 707hp, and maybe even on to 800hp. EIGHT HUNDRED FREAKING HORSEPOWER.

We already know the Viper is due for an update in 2016 from Chrysler/Fiat's 5-year plan. This could very well be what the beast needs to get out of it sales slump. It would take some work to get a supercharger into that tight engine bay, I for one hope they find a way.

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DISCUSSION (54)

bpromersberger > Milky
08/20/2014 at 12:19

I'm assuming it would be a centrifugal supercharger. Some people commented before that the Viper wouldn't get the hellcat engine due to the height of it, with its twin screw setup.

JR1 > Milky
08/20/2014 at 12:20

You know I don't think the Viper needs more horsepower. Maybe it does but 50 more at the most. I think it needs to become more modern. I hate saying that because I love the car but if it becomes more modern sales might increase. And I want a roadster I have been waiting too long not to have one by now

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Milky
08/20/2014 at 12:21

Where the hell are they going to cram the blower? If I recall the hellcat has a 1.8 litre blower, that is bigger than my ENGINE.

EDIT: 2.4 litres! THAT IS 50% BIGGER THAN MY FiST ENGINE!

KylesPerGallon > Milky
08/20/2014 at 12:22

Its not even selling that well is it?

JGrabowMSt > Milky
08/20/2014 at 12:22

If, and that's a big if, supercharged V10s are going to appear in the Viper, 800+HP would be on conservatively low boost to preserve weak internals. Turn up the boost, and you could easily see power levels well into the 900's. A very good tune would help that number into the 4 digit range.

Milky > bpromersberger
08/20/2014 at 12:23

Has anyone ever packed one of those for production though? Seems like more of a after markets thing IMO.

Milky > JR1
08/20/2014 at 12:24

Yea, I'm a little surprised they didn't do the convertible first ….. but dood, 800HP.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Milky
08/20/2014 at 12:25

sounds like it's time for a big ass cowl hood.

OR just cut a hole in the hood and let it pop out

7:07 > KylesPerGallon
08/20/2014 at 12:26

SOON

macanamera > Milky
08/20/2014 at 12:26

Yeah, that's why the Viper isn't selling: Not enough horsepower.

drunkenup4 > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again.
08/20/2014 at 12:27

its 2.4 LITERS. 2.4.!!

KylesPerGallon > 7:07
08/20/2014 at 12:27

800 HP you say? I'll take one in each color then.

bpromersberger > Milky
08/20/2014 at 12:28

Great point. I think every supercharged production car is twin screw, they could just tool up a new hood and x-brace to make it fit. I know the head designer of the Viper, but I know he wouldn't say due to confidentiality and what not.

Milky > KylesPerGallon
08/20/2014 at 12:28

Nope, thats probably why the refresh is happening so soon.

Milky > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again.
08/20/2014 at 12:28

I think you forgot what country this is. #Murica

Milky > JGrabowMSt
08/20/2014 at 12:29

Certainly a big IF …. but I hope the "sources" are telling the truth. This would make the Viper's power bat shit crazy again.

Milky > macanamera
08/20/2014 at 12:31

I know right, what was Dodge thinking?

Milky > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
08/20/2014 at 12:32

I'd be okay with either of these. Esp. popping out of the hood, ala Veyron.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Milky
08/20/2014 at 12:32

I think the 'Murica quotient is covered already by the 8.4L V10...

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > JGrabowMSt
08/20/2014 at 12:34

I'm pretty sure you would need a slip tank if you wanted to road trip a supercharged 8.4L V10...

Milky > bpromersberger
08/20/2014 at 12:35

Yea I know, my room mate is Dodge designer too …. I don't even bother asking him.

Milky > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again.
08/20/2014 at 12:36

Boy there is never enough murica

*DAMNIT I WAN TO PUT MURICA GIFS IN HERE*

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Milky
08/20/2014 at 12:38

There is when you are owned by an italian company that makes La Ferrari.

JR1 > Milky
08/20/2014 at 12:45

Duuuude driveability. I can't imagine an 800hp Viper would have any. With that much power you run into the Cosby dilemma .

Milky > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again.
08/20/2014 at 12:45

IIRC they've sold more LaFerraris then Vipers ….. I don't think Ferrari could care less about the viper.

RotaryLover > Milky
08/20/2014 at 12:53

Sweeeeettttttttt!!!

JGrabowMSt > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again.
08/20/2014 at 12:53

I'm pretty sure you'd need a body bag with some arms and a window to see out of as well.

You know, just to make the EMTs job easier.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > JGrabowMSt
08/20/2014 at 12:58

Haha yeah probably

Mike > Milky
08/20/2014 at 13:01

Supercharged 8.4L V10? Well, the Viper is already basically the only American car that I lust over. This sort of insanity is just brilliant.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Milky
08/20/2014 at 13:03

I think they would if it steals sales. I still highly doubt they can/will fit a supercharger in that engine bay. The viper needs refinement, not MOAR POWER. If anything a lighter engine would be what they need, not more weight.

Milky > JR1
08/20/2014 at 13:04

Lol nice reference. But it is supercharged not turbo'd, so its linear power and not peaky.

I guess we'll find out in 2 years what they are really up to.

nafsucof > bpromersberger
08/20/2014 at 13:11

I thought it was too wide for the shock towers?

Milky > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again.
08/20/2014 at 13:22

If heard this word 'Louogick' before, I don't know what it means, but I think you're using it ….. I don't like it.

ViperGuy21 > Milky
08/20/2014 at 13:25

One of the Viper's trademarks has always been the insane naturally aspirated V10. And I'm a Viper purist. But in this case, I think the character of the Viper should outweigh the technical bloodline. And more power=more insanity

Mike > JR1
08/20/2014 at 13:36

The point of the Viper is basically to have a cheap-ish, crude-ish supercar that demands respect for its ridiculous power, lest it tear your face off and throw you into a ditch. Driveability has never been a primary concern.

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again.
08/20/2014 at 13:46

I really, truly, and seriously doubt that the Viper is of any concern to Ferrari. After all if you can afford any Ferrari you can also afford a Viper to park along side it.

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > nafsucof
08/20/2014 at 13:47

It's also that.

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > ViperGuy21
08/20/2014 at 13:47

Natural aspiration was never a trademark....it just was a thing. Its trademark has been insanity, which it needs more of.

ViperGuy21 > Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment
08/20/2014 at 14:01

Trademark was just a bad choice of wording. The Viper has always had natural aspiration, double bubble roof, long hood, etc..

It's trademark(meaning only having 1 trademark) is being able to scare you and put a smile on your face indefinitely

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment
08/20/2014 at 14:06

Haha tell that to Doug.

Manuél Ferrari > Milky
08/20/2014 at 14:09

I like this

Who cares if it can handle the HP

The Viper is all about being batshit crazy!

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Milky
08/20/2014 at 14:40

Depends on what type of supercharger they use.

Milky > Manuél Ferrari
08/20/2014 at 14:58

Damn right, if you're not scared you're not in a proper Viper.

http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/gallery…

Milky > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again.
08/20/2014 at 15:05

I thought being belt driven meant they all were linear as fuck.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Milky
08/20/2014 at 15:17

...I must have miss-read your post, I got nothin'.

Keith Moon > Milky
08/20/2014 at 16:08

This means that the Viper joins the list of American cars I really want. The only other modern entry there is the new Corvette. Is this the beginning of better American super cars? I think so :)

Milky > Keith Moon
08/20/2014 at 16:15

"Beginning"

http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/gallery…

MrPseudonym > Milky
08/20/2014 at 16:22

Comparing the Viper to a Corvette is like comparing apples to apples. I'm not saying they're the same. I'm from the PNW (Pacific North West, for all you who don't know), so I know my apples. Here, comparing Viper and Corvette is like comparing Honeycrisps and Fujis. You're going to pay a metric fuckton more for the Honeycrisps (Viper in this analogy), but you're going to get larger, better quality fruit. Bottom line is, Honeycrisps are better, and the only ones who buy them (they're expensive!), are people who care about what they're getting.

TL;DR I'm in Redmond right now and feel like going to the store to buy some apples. I traveled 2700 miles from Austin to Redmond, and I want apples! Also, Viper is best, and a reflection of the fact that there are very few of them is that I only saw two of them, over 2700 miles of road.

Captain_Spadaro > Milky
08/20/2014 at 16:38

Does anyone else think this might not be the best solution? Don't get me wrong, I love irresponsible horsepower amounts as much as the next guy, but I really don't think that this is what is needed to get the Viper out of it's sales slump right.

Philbert/Phartnagle > Milky
08/21/2014 at 04:52

Excellent! Let the power wars BEGIN!

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > Milky
08/21/2014 at 06:50

Awww hell yes.

I love how Dodge is being ballsy with cars that aren't selling as well as they'd hoped at the moment.

MOAR POWER.

So much better than releasing utterly weaksauce styling-based special editions every now and again *cough*BRZ*cough*

Milky > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires
08/21/2014 at 07:46

I just hope they do it and this isn't just rumor mill stuff.

Opposite Locksmith > Milky
06/09/2015 at 00:29

I've driven a TT viper and it was anything but peaky. Charged towards redline in any gear

Milky > Opposite Locksmith
06/09/2015 at 00:57

Well thats good to hear … but isn’t that really dependent on how you tune a turbo car? Because some are peaky.

Kinja'd!!!

(low Hp but first example I found)